Problem with the TG logo in Firefox 4 RC?

Rob Williams · 03-09-2011, 09:39 PM

Hi all:

On my PC, our site's logo doesn't look quite right in Firefox 4 RC, while it did look fine during the betas. I am not sure if it's just me or not, because while the logo is off on a Windows machine here, it's just fine on a Linux machine, also with the RC.

If anyone is using Firefox 4 RC and is able to take a look at our logo and see if it looks a bit off, please do and let me know!

Thanks!

DarkStarr · 03-10-2011, 07:58 AM

Using RC1 and it looks fine for me, dunno, maybe you have a weird setting enabled or disabled.

Optix · 03-10-2011, 08:10 AM

I think Stork found the same thing in chat last night - everything looked peachy.

Rob Williams · 03-10-2011, 06:09 PM

What's bizarre is that I used to have a similar issue a long time ago, but I forget what browser it was with. What I do remember is that I had the problem remain after a format, so color me confused.

If it does just happen to be me, then great. No one else has been able to duplicate it so far.

Misha · 03-14-2011, 11:16 AM

Rob, I just checked you logo, it's PNG, there are no any transparency, but there is something strange.
Person who design your page use some Custom Pixel Aspect Ratio, which is often used for video projects.
That information is obviously embedded in PNG file, because Photoshop recognise and offer me to correct that...
Not sure if that can have any connection... but... it may have... i will send you same png but without any embeded information...

Misha · 03-14-2011, 11:25 AM

Oh, and Firefox can read color profiles, so if your logo have some strange color profile embeded, then FF can wrongly interpret colors... But i just check and photoshop ask for color profile when i'm loading your file...

Rob Williams · 03-14-2011, 01:55 PM

Thanks for the send and the information, man!

I am going to hold off on using it until someone else complains about it being an issue though, because it seems like I'm the lone soul here. I almost hate to even suggest such a thing, but I almost wonder if it's my display causing some issue somehow (Dell 2408WFP). The reason I suggest that is I've had the exact same issue in Linux also, so it's not like it's just some Windows issue.

What I think I'll test out later is Firefox on another PC where it works fine, and then hook up my monitor to it. Common sense tells me it shouldn't be the monitor, but I can't drop it, haha.

Misha · 03-14-2011, 02:08 PM

Oh, yes of course.
You have wide gamut monitor and you’ll see more color than average monitor of 72% color gamut.
I have HP 2475w on the left side and HP ZR24w on the right side... there are significant difference in colour reproduction between two of them... Especially if we talk about vivid and hard to reproduce colours.. So yes, your "problem" can be connected with your Dell monitor!

Rob Williams · 03-14-2011, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misha

So yes, your "problem" can be connected with your Dell monitor!

Well, the thing is... it'd also be related to how Firefox handles the color profiles, because I quite simply don't see that issue with another browser (except IE6, due to its poor handling of PNG).

Issues like this just shouldn't exist. If it works fine in all other browsers, I blame Firefox!

Misha · 03-14-2011, 07:29 PM

Mozilla Firefox is the only browser than gives us some control on how to handle untagged images and CSS elements....

Check this test with IE and FF in the same time...
http://gearoracle.com/tools/web-brow...nagement-test/

Kougar · 03-17-2011, 03:52 AM

Tested it with a 2407WFP monitor & Firefox RC v4, page and logo both look identical in Opera and the RC build of Firefox.

Rob Williams · 03-17-2011, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misha

Mozilla Firefox is the only browser than gives us some control on how to handle untagged images and CSS elements....

Check this test with IE and FF in the same time...
http://gearoracle.com/tools/web-brow...nagement-test/

That's a cool page, thanks for the linkage

I never thought of color profile support in browsers before this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kougar

Tested it with a 2407WFP monitor & Firefox RC v4, page and logo both look identical in Opera and the RC build of Firefox.

It's just me then, I guess. Doesn't surprise me given I have other strange issues that creep up out of nowhere. It's just unfortunate it occurs with Firefox 4, a browser I was hoping to make a total move to. Will be redoing my OS soon thanks to an SSD upgrade, so hopefully the issue will go away after that.

03-09-2011, 09:39 PM	#1
Rob Williams Editor-in-Chief Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 13,231	Problem with the TG logo in Firefox 4 RC? Hi all: On my PC, our site's logo doesn't look quite right in Firefox 4 RC, while it did look fine during the betas. I am not sure if it's just me or not, because while the logo is off on a Windows machine here, it's just fine on a Linux machine, also with the RC. If anyone is using Firefox 4 RC and is able to take a look at our logo and see if it looks a bit off, please do and let me know! Thanks! __________________ Intel Core i7-990X EE @ 3.43GHz, GIGABYTE X58A-UD5, Kingston 12GB DDR3-1333, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB SSD, WD VR 1TB, WD 2TB, Seagate 2TB, LG BD-ROM, ASUS DVD-RW, Corsair 1000HX, Corsair H60 Cooler Corsair 800D, Dell 2408WFP 24", ASUS Xonar Essence STX, Gentoo (KDE 4.10, 3.7 Kernel) "Take care to get what you like, or you will be forced to like what you get!" - H.P. Baxxter <Toad772> I don't always drink alcohol, but when I do, I take it too far.

03-10-2011, 07:58 AM	#2
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03-10-2011, 06:09 PM	#4
Rob Williams Editor-in-Chief Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 13,231	What's bizarre is that I used to have a similar issue a long time ago, but I forget what browser it was with. What I do remember is that I had the problem remain after a format, so color me confused. If it does just happen to be me, then great. No one else has been able to duplicate it so far. __________________ Intel Core i7-990X EE @ 3.43GHz, GIGABYTE X58A-UD5, Kingston 12GB DDR3-1333, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB SSD, WD VR 1TB, WD 2TB, Seagate 2TB, LG BD-ROM, ASUS DVD-RW, Corsair 1000HX, Corsair H60 Cooler Corsair 800D, Dell 2408WFP 24", ASUS Xonar Essence STX, Gentoo (KDE 4.10, 3.7 Kernel) "Take care to get what you like, or you will be forced to like what you get!" - H.P. Baxxter <Toad772> I don't always drink alcohol, but when I do, I take it too far.

03-14-2011, 01:55 PM	#7
Rob Williams Editor-in-Chief Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 13,231	Thanks for the send and the information, man! I am going to hold off on using it until someone else complains about it being an issue though, because it seems like I'm the lone soul here. I almost hate to even suggest such a thing, but I almost wonder if it's my display causing some issue somehow (Dell 2408WFP). The reason I suggest that is I've had the exact same issue in Linux also, so it's not like it's just some Windows issue. What I think I'll test out later is Firefox on another PC where it works fine, and then hook up my monitor to it. Common sense tells me it shouldn't be the monitor, but I can't drop it, haha. __________________ Intel Core i7-990X EE @ 3.43GHz, GIGABYTE X58A-UD5, Kingston 12GB DDR3-1333, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB SSD, WD VR 1TB, WD 2TB, Seagate 2TB, LG BD-ROM, ASUS DVD-RW, Corsair 1000HX, Corsair H60 Cooler Corsair 800D, Dell 2408WFP 24", ASUS Xonar Essence STX, Gentoo (KDE 4.10, 3.7 Kernel) "Take care to get what you like, or you will be forced to like what you get!" - H.P. Baxxter <Toad772> I don't always drink alcohol, but when I do, I take it too far.

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03-14-2011, 11:16 AM	#5
Misha Obliviot Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 46	Rob, I just checked you logo, it's PNG, there are no any transparency, but there is something strange. Person who design your page use some Custom Pixel Aspect Ratio, which is often used for video projects. That information is obviously embedded in PNG file, because Photoshop recognise and offer me to correct that... Not sure if that can have any connection... but... it may have... i will send you same png but without any embeded information...

03-14-2011, 11:25 AM	#6
Misha Obliviot Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 46	Oh, and Firefox can read color profiles, so if your logo have some strange color profile embeded, then FF can wrongly interpret colors... But i just check and photoshop ask for color profile when i'm loading your file...

03-14-2011, 02:08 PM	#8
Misha Obliviot Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 46	Oh, yes of course. You have wide gamut monitor and you’ll see more color than average monitor of 72% color gamut. I have HP 2475w on the left side and HP ZR24w on the right side... there are significant difference in colour reproduction between two of them... Especially if we talk about vivid and hard to reproduce colours.. So yes, your "problem" can be connected with your Dell monitor!

03-14-2011, 07:29 PM	#10
Misha Obliviot Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 46	Mozilla Firefox is the only browser than gives us some control on how to handle untagged images and CSS elements.... Check this test with IE and FF in the same time... http://gearoracle.com/tools/web-brow...nagement-test/