Would it be Worth Moving to a Calendar Where Every Year Was the Same?

Tharic-Nar · 12-28-2011, 03:34 AM

Let's face it; the Gregorian calendar can be a pain at times. Sure, it works, but isn't it just a little tedious to never know what weekday a certain holiday or your birthday is going to land on next year? Or the year after? Wouldn't it be great if each calendar year was identical, so that you'd always know what to expect? It might sound like an "out there" idea, but it is indeed possible, with the most recent solution being the Hanke-Henry Permanent Calendar.

You can read the rest of our post and discuss here.

Doomsday · 12-28-2011, 01:47 PM

Chinese Calenders of the year of the Dragon and Tiger!!!! Or the year of the Pig!

OriginalJoeCool · 12-28-2011, 01:48 PM

I'm quite fond of the Holocene calendar (Human Era). Whether you're Christian or not, doesn't using a calendar based on the birth date of Jesus Christ (an incorrect birth date, according to more modern research) seem a bit "outdated" to you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar

According to the HE calendar the current year is 12011.

Rob Williams · 12-28-2011, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OriginalJoeCool

According to the HE calendar the current year is 12011.

I feel seriously old all of a sudden.

OriginalJoeCool · 12-28-2011, 05:18 PM

Yeah, those 10,000 years sure flew by, didn't they?

marfig · 12-29-2011, 02:22 AM

Indeed, I was never found of the Gregorian calendar. But the real problem is the determination of a day length and the fact that earth itself, gravity and the universe, all laugh at our mundane attempts to make the passing of time seem clockwork precise.

We require a type of order that simply does not exist. The day and night cycles aren't the same all across the year (and across the years) and yet we insist that 11pm can never happen during the day (at least on more temperate latitudes).

Our error is trying to make time cyclic; there's always the beginning of a new day, there's always a new year, there's always the beginning of a new month and a new week. Time is instead a straight arrow. A good calendar would be an "infinite" calendar, forever adjusting itself to the earth and sun movements. A calendar that wouldn't need crude odd years, or odd weeks. A purely mathematical calendar.

And definitely not a calendar concocted out of some religious sect gathering that decided it would be a great idea to start with the birth of their fabled superhero.

OriginalJoeCool · 12-29-2011, 03:46 PM

We're supposed to be secular, so a non-religious calendar would be nice. Undoubtedly there would be the people that would say God will "get mad" and send more earthquakes and tsunamis.

eunoia · 12-30-2011, 12:47 PM

It's bad enough having my birthday in November, if it was also on a Monday every year I'd shoot myself.

Like the idea of a secular, more mathematical calendar but this ain't it. Just not seeing the advantages to changing. Dental appointments? Bank interest? Doesn't seem like university-level thinking here.

Doomsday · 12-30-2011, 01:47 PM

Well we follow both Lunar and Gregorian!

OriginalJoeCool · 12-31-2011, 04:45 PM

If I wanted to look nuts, I could just start using the Holocene calendar on my own. XXXX xx, 12012 HE.

Kougar · 01-20-2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eunoia

It's bad enough having my birthday in November, if it was also on a Monday every year I'd shoot myself.

Hahaha... oh man. But that is a very, very good point.

12-28-2011, 03:34 AM	#1
Tharic-Nar Techgage Staff Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,151	Would it be Worth Moving to a Calendar Where Every Year Was the Same? Let's face it; the Gregorian calendar can be a pain at times. Sure, it works, but isn't it just a little tedious to never know what weekday a certain holiday or your birthday is going to land on next year? Or the year after? Wouldn't it be great if each calendar year was identical, so that you'd always know what to expect? It might sound like an "out there" idea, but it is indeed possible, with the most recent solution being the Hanke-Henry Permanent Calendar. You can read the rest of our post and discuss here. __________________ PSU: Corsair 1000HX - Case: Thermaltake Xaser VI Full Tower - CPU: Intel Core i7 2600 @3.8GHz - Cooler: Thermaltake FRIO - Motherboard: ASUS P67 Sabertooth - Memory: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP Arctic 1600 - GPU: 2x AMD Radeon HD 5870 - HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB 6Gb/s - Audio: ASUS Xonar DX + Corsair HS1 USB Headset K/B: Corsair K90 - Mouse: Corsair M60 - Monitor: DELL U2410 - Speakers: Corsair SP2500 - Headset: Corsair HS1A - Mic: Blue Yeti USB Microphone - I need Fiber to fix my Irregular Bandwidth Syndrome -

12-28-2011, 01:47 PM	#2
Doomsday Tech Junkie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: KHI, PAK Posts: 1,539	Chinese Calenders of the year of the Dragon and Tiger!!!! Or the year of the Pig! __________________ PSU: Corsair AX850 - Case: Cooler Master HAF X - CPU:Core i7-2600k - Cooler: Cooler Master V6 GT - Motherboard: Asus Z68 Maximus IV Extreme Z - Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB-1600Mhz - GPU: AMD MSI R6970 Lightning - HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB, Seagate 2TB Barracuda Green - SSD: Intel 520 Series 120GB - K/B: Razer Lycosa Mirror - Mouse: Logitech G700 - MouseMat: Steel Series 4HD - LCD: Samsung 2333SW 23" - Speakers: Creative Inspire M4500 4.1 - Headset: Logitech G35 7.1 "Do not look at a man's prayers nor his fasts, rather, measure him by how well he deals with others, the compassion he shows his fellow man, his wisdom and his integrity" - Umar Ibn Al-Khattab

12-28-2011, 01:48 PM	#3
OriginalJoeCool Tech Monkey Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 616	I'm quite fond of the Holocene calendar (Human Era). Whether you're Christian or not, doesn't using a calendar based on the birth date of Jesus Christ (an incorrect birth date, according to more modern research) seem a bit "outdated" to you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar According to the HE calendar the current year is 12011. __________________ Last.fm Raptr "Man could hold the universe in his palm, if only he could learn to unclench his fist." Last edited by OriginalJoeCool; 12-28-2011 at 06:01 PM. Reason: birth date of who? oops.

12-28-2011, 05:18 PM	#5
OriginalJoeCool Tech Monkey Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 616	Yeah, those 10,000 years sure flew by, didn't they? __________________ Last.fm Raptr "Man could hold the universe in his palm, if only he could learn to unclench his fist."

12-29-2011, 02:22 AM	#6
marfig No ROM battery Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 783	Indeed, I was never found of the Gregorian calendar. But the real problem is the determination of a day length and the fact that earth itself, gravity and the universe, all laugh at our mundane attempts to make the passing of time seem clockwork precise. We require a type of order that simply does not exist. The day and night cycles aren't the same all across the year (and across the years) and yet we insist that 11pm can never happen during the day (at least on more temperate latitudes). Our error is trying to make time cyclic; there's always the beginning of a new day, there's always a new year, there's always the beginning of a new month and a new week. Time is instead a straight arrow. A good calendar would be an "infinite" calendar, forever adjusting itself to the earth and sun movements. A calendar that wouldn't need crude odd years, or odd weeks. A purely mathematical calendar. And definitely not a calendar concocted out of some religious sect gathering that decided it would be a great idea to start with the birth of their fabled superhero. __________________ NOX COOLBAY Side Window Black; NOX Apex 600w Modular; ASUS P7P55D-E Socket 1156, Sata 6Gb/s & USB 3.0; Intel Quad Core i5 760 2.80 Ghz @ 3.60 Ghz, 8 Mb de cache; Gskill Ripjaws 4 Gb DDR3 1600 Mhz CL8 Dual Channel; ASUS GEFORCE GTX 560 TI DC II 1024MB GDDR5; Samsung 1 Tb 32 Mb SpinPoint F3; NEC 24x Sata black Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2; 2x Samsung SyncMaster S43NW 8000:1 (1440x900) Logitech K120 Keyboard and Logitech Performance Mouse MX

12-29-2011, 03:46 PM	#7
OriginalJoeCool Tech Monkey Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 616	We're supposed to be secular, so a non-religious calendar would be nice. Undoubtedly there would be the people that would say God will "get mad" and send more earthquakes and tsunamis. __________________ Last.fm Raptr "Man could hold the universe in his palm, if only he could learn to unclench his fist."

12-30-2011, 12:47 PM	#8
eunoia Partition Master Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Outside Poker Flat Posts: 305	It's bad enough having my birthday in November, if it was also on a Monday every year I'd shoot myself. Like the idea of a secular, more mathematical calendar but this ain't it. Just not seeing the advantages to changing. Dental appointments? Bank interest? Doesn't seem like university-level thinking here.

12-30-2011, 01:47 PM	#9
Doomsday Tech Junkie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: KHI, PAK Posts: 1,539	Well we follow both Lunar and Gregorian! __________________ PSU: Corsair AX850 - Case: Cooler Master HAF X - CPU:Core i7-2600k - Cooler: Cooler Master V6 GT - Motherboard: Asus Z68 Maximus IV Extreme Z - Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8 GB-1600Mhz - GPU: AMD MSI R6970 Lightning - HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB, Seagate 2TB Barracuda Green - SSD: Intel 520 Series 120GB - K/B: Razer Lycosa Mirror - Mouse: Logitech G700 - MouseMat: Steel Series 4HD - LCD: Samsung 2333SW 23" - Speakers: Creative Inspire M4500 4.1 - Headset: Logitech G35 7.1 "Do not look at a man's prayers nor his fasts, rather, measure him by how well he deals with others, the compassion he shows his fellow man, his wisdom and his integrity" - Umar Ibn Al-Khattab

12-31-2011, 04:45 PM	#10
OriginalJoeCool Tech Monkey Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 616	If I wanted to look nuts, I could just start using the Holocene calendar on my own. XXXX xx, 12012 HE. __________________ Last.fm Raptr "Man could hold the universe in his palm, if only he could learn to unclench his fist."

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